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Korean Skaters Thread (Part II)

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 11:57 AM

I think it's appropriate to create a new thread for Korean skaters. Support them or be disappointed at them, these skaters are here to stay under the towering titan's shadow that is Yuna.

At present, the picture is very, very pessimistic but a new hope is that the things would improve even a tiniest bit compared to the post-Vancouver quad.

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 12:08 PM

SY and HJ are reported to participate in the National Winter Games. :blink: Wouldn't it be better to prepare for the WC, considering they are already burnt out from the Olympics? :huh:

Just utterly bizarre....

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 11:13 PM

 Realdeal, on 26 February 2014 - 12:08 PM, said:

SY and HJ are reported to participate in the National Winter Games. :blink: Wouldn't it be better to prepare for the WC, considering they are already burnt out from the Olympics? :huh:

Just utterly bizarre....


There is a news report saying the KSU and NWG committee urged Sang-Hwa Lee to compete there even against her will. I guess it'd be reasonable to assume they are also pressuring SY and HJ to do the same alas. :rolleyes1:

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Posted 27 February 2014 - 12:52 AM

Watching HJ and SY's performances at the Olympics, my thought was "someday before PC Olympics, YuNa may have to come back again!" (It is impossible though). I couldn't believe that they performed poorer than MJ 4 years ago.

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Posted 27 February 2014 - 01:57 AM

Is there any scenario in which Yuna would return?

She seems to be very burned out and tired from all of the intense pressure over the years, and from dealing with injuries and the grueling training.

OTOH, with the '18 games in Korea, she may feel some pressure to return once again, perhaps at some point in '17. If she takes a year or two off completely from skating, perhaps her desire to skate and compete might return? That, along with some feelers being put out to see if she might be interested in skating again?

She will be 27, perhaps not an ideal age to compete for a medal in any event?

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Posted 27 February 2014 - 02:24 AM

 skate_newb, on 27 February 2014 - 01:57 AM, said:

Is there any scenario in which Yuna would return?

She seems to be very burned out and tired from all of the intense pressure over the years, and from dealing with injuries and the grueling training.

OTOH, with the '18 games in Korea, she may feel some pressure to return once again, perhaps at some point in '17. If she takes a year or two off completely from skating, perhaps her desire to skate and compete might return? That, along with some feelers being put out to see if she might be interested in skating again?

She will be 27, perhaps not an ideal age to compete for a medal in any event?

There have been numerous indications and observations that her physical condition can't endure further competitive career.

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Posted 27 February 2014 - 02:32 AM

 skate_newb, on 27 February 2014 - 01:57 AM, said:

Is there any scenario in which Yuna would return?

She seems to be very burned out and tired from all of the intense pressure over the years, and from dealing with injuries and the grueling training.

OTOH, with the '18 games in Korea, she may feel some pressure to return once again, perhaps at some point in '17. If she takes a year or two off completely from skating, perhaps her desire to skate and compete might return? That, along with some feelers being put out to see if she might be interested in skating again?

She will be 27, perhaps not an ideal age to compete for a medal in any event?


Yuna has clearly indicated that she is now retired. Granted, she can change her own mind but there's absolutely no indication that she might do so at all. She has no reason to return and thousands of reasons to avoid it (injuries, training, pressure, etc). I'm pretty sure she's eager to move on with her life, enjoy other things and pursue other goals.

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Posted 27 February 2014 - 04:13 AM

 lakewood, on 27 February 2014 - 02:24 AM, said:

There have been numerous indications and observations that her physical condition can't endure further competitive career.


OK, thank you for your replies. If anyone has any links/articles that I can read about this, it would be greatly appreciated.

Too bad I started paying attention to Yuna so late in her career. A bit like starting to watch Michael Jordan in his final playoff game for the bulls.

Having said that, I hope she enjoys her retirement from skating to the max and if she remains a media figure, I look forward to seeing some of her work. :)

There are some great up and coming and veteran skaters I can still watch: I look forward to seeing what Gracie Gold, Mao Asada and Julia Lipnitskaya are capable of in the future!

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 10:22 PM

View Postinspiration, on 26 February 2014 - 11:13 PM, said:

There is a news report saying the KSU and NWG committee urged Sang-Hwa Lee to compete there even against her will. I guess it'd be reasonable to assume they are also pressuring SY and HJ to do the same alas. :rolleyes1:


Both HaeJin and SoYoun skated at the Korean National Winter Games yesterday and the day before Korea time.

SoYoun came out on top (SP-58.87, LP-103.91, Total, 162.78). Cho Hwi second (147,05) and HaeJin third (137.92).
SY and HJ didn't even have time to recover from the intense Olympic experience. ouch.. :o

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 02:15 AM

View Postinspiration, on 26 February 2014 - 11:13 PM, said:

There is a news report saying the KSU and NWG committee urged Sang-Hwa Lee to compete there even against her will. I guess it'd be reasonable to assume they are also pressuring SY and HJ to do the same alas. :rolleyes1:


This is why I'm not completely convinced that Yuna will remain 'retired." KSU will likely exert mild to moderate pressure as 2018 nears. I wouldn't be surprised if her coach along with the KSU push Yuna to return to skating.

Yuna is by far the biggest sports star in Korea, and it's only inevitable that KSU, the government, and many other interested parties, would want Yuna to compete again. I wouldn't be surprised if the media were to support the "Yuna should return" compaign. I expect this campaign to begin sometime around mid 2016, and intensifying as 2017 approaches.

I would love to see Yuna return, and I don't follow skating at all. Or at least I haven't until I saw Yuna compete and perform just a few days ago. If a complete newbie like myself wants to see her return, then this desire must be much stronger, 100X over for the KSU and Korean government.

I'm not saying a Yuna return is guaranteed. Not by any means. I'm simply saying that it seems inevitable that she will be asked. Repeatedly.

I think the Yuna soap opera is only beginning.

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Posted 08 March 2014 - 05:45 AM

On Yuna getting out of retirement.. somehow I feel it really depends... I mean if Korean skating gets more momentum, with better chances at medalling, even and outside chance than the pressure is off Yuna. Like if Korean skaters get top 10 in Worlds, than maybe they wont bother Yuna.

It's more likely if it remains that their skaters can even qualify without Yuna... then maybe... maybe... :(

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Posted 08 March 2014 - 11:40 AM

LOL There is no way in hell Yuna will ever return to competition. Yuna has already shown her best technically and artistically, and she's won every gold medal under the sun. She has zero motivation to ever compete again and the state of Korean figure skating is irrelevant because Yuna learned a harsh but valuable lesson after 2010 & 2011 Worlds - she will never again succumb to manipulations and pressure to skate for others greed.

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Posted 08 March 2014 - 03:10 PM

Here are the links to some of the skaters who competed in the 2014 Korean Winter Games last week.

<High School Division - Ladies>

So-Yeon Park (total scores: 162.78)
SP: http://tvpot.daum.ne...clipid=57064259
LP: http://tvpot.daum.ne...clipid=57064341

Hwi Choi (total scores: 147.05)
SP: http://tvpot.daum.ne...clipid=57064130
LP: http://tvpot.daum.ne...clipid=57064160

Hae-Jin Kim (total scores: 137.92)
SP: http://tvpot.daum.ne...clipid=57064187
LP: http://tvpot.daum.ne...clipid=57064239

<Middle School Division - Ladies>

Da Bin Choi (total scores: 163.54)
SP: http://tvpot.daum.ne...clipid=57063810
LP: http://tvpot.daum.ne...clipid=57063854

Ah-Hyun Yim (total scores: 150.23)
SP: http://tvpot.daum.ne...clipid=57063745
LP: http://tvpot.daum.ne...clipid=57063774

Na Hyun Kim (total scores: 141.88)
SP: http://tvpot.daum.ne...clipid=57063603
LP: http://tvpot.daum.ne...clipid=57063636

Kyuen Kim (total scores: 141.04)
SP: http://tvpot.daum.ne...clipid=57063521
LP: http://tvpot.daum.ne...clipid=57063572

<College Division - Men>

Min-Suk Kim (total scores: 145.75)
SP: http://tvpot.daum.ne...clipid=57063138
LP: http://tvpot.daum.ne...clipid=57063176

<High School Division - Men>

Dong Won Lee (total scores: 194.75)
SP: http://tvpot.daum.ne...clipid=57062916
LP: http://tvpot.daum.ne...clipid=57062940

June Hyoung Lee (total scores: 193.01)
SP: http://tvpot.daum.ne...clipid=57063052
LP: http://tvpot.daum.ne...clipid=57063098

Jin Seo Kim (total scores: 174.49)
SP: http://tvpot.daum.ne...clipid=57062970
LP: http://tvpot.daum.ne...clipid=57063006

<Elementary School Division - Men>

Joon-Hwan Cha (the young boy in K&C show, one of the hopefuls for Pyeonchang OG; total scores: 177.49)
SP: http://tvpot.daum.ne...clipid=57062666
LP: http://tvpot.daum.ne...clipid=57062712


P.S. For those of you who cannot access Daum Player, you can watch these clips on Youtube. Just search for "IceScapeRasu" and go to the uploader's site to view the videos.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 10:15 AM

ATS thread, Inspiration mentioned that Park So Youn is working with David for her new programs next season, any more news from other skaters and about training abroad?
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Posted 09 May 2014 - 12:56 AM

So it is true that she's training abroad...as stated in the GS forums! Thanks for confirming the info :) I hope Hae-jin (and the other skaters esp. Cha Joon Hwan ahhahaha idk why but I'm impressed with his development) gets the same opportunity as well

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 08:15 AM

I love Soyoun's swan very much, especially, this ATS performance, all clean, and good speed in spinning, and final spin in front live orchestra, that perfect swan arm during camel spin. reminds me of this iconic dance


I think Soyoun, should further develop her ballet style. and her choreographer according to wiki is Cindy Stuart! and I like her work.

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Posted 09 May 2014 - 08:28 AM

Park So Youn is going abroad to train? That's the first time I've heard about this news.
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Posted 09 May 2014 - 09:24 AM

In GS forum, someone mentioned that sheis going to train in USA at the end of May.

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 05:33 AM

Any prediction on who might coach So-Youn? Oh and one more thing, is Hae-jin coming with her? I really hope she gets the same opportunity as well

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 01:11 PM

I dont know if this has been posted yet, I just watched it today. highly recommend, it is a documentary KBS1 made, great HD quality as usual. It is about the future of Korean figure skating and other figure skating power house such as Russia and Japan.
I dont know Korean, Russian nor Japanese. So I dont understand what they about talking about. but after I watched this, I thought that Russian figure skating training is very professional compare to Korea. And they has so many young skaters.
Is there translation somewhere?
part 1:
https://www.youtube....h?v=_jxtW_Nxt9o
part 2: mainly about the 2 famous clubs ( Radionova and JuliaLip training camps ), KBS give Radionova a clock with Yuna's picture on it as a present so cute!

part 3:

part 4:


Any translations. please!
translation I found on GS regarding Radionova, translated by Rhodium
ER's choreographer:
We have worked with Inna Goncharenko for several years. I have made programs for Elena and other skaters for several years. The cooperation is very productive, we have made many good programs together.

ER:
Conditions are very good, the ice is made well, there are different specialists. There are many people on the ice sometimes, but usually there aren't many people, as many as you can see.

Eteri:
We had a problem 1015 years ago: a figure skating and an ice hockey were in the same school. Then the Moscow government and the Russian government realized that we should divide them and some special-purpose schools were founded.

At 11:10 we can see Eteri's daughter

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