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Yuna's Triple Axel Mini-Clip

#1 legend

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 08:58 PM

Just read some posts in the post-Worlds news thread wondering about Yuna's 3A.
I attached a mini-clip of Yuna attempting 3A with no harness .
Never attached a file at this forum, so hope it works.

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 09:09 PM

Around two weeks ago, I saw the same mini-clip in a thread on GS (similar topic - maybe on yuna's 3A, if my memory is right), That thread has the link to the source of the mini-clip, so I followed the link. It was a Korean fan forum named DC inside, and among the many replies (most of them were written around 2008) I found a few mentioning that Orser once said that he witnessed Yu-na doing 3A successfully (including clean landing). I'm not sure how many times he witnessed the successful landings (one reply says he witnessed them a few times, and all the other replies just mention that Orser witnessed the successful 3A landing).

Anyway, there is no way I can confirm those things, so that would be great if somebody can provide some additional information.

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 09:17 PM

hyhkorea, on Mar 31 2010, 09:09 PM, said:

Around two weeks ago, I saw the same mini-clip in a thread on GS (similar topic - maybe on yuna's 3A, if my memory is right), That thread has the link to the source of the mini-clip, so I followed the link. It was a Korean fan forum named DC inside, and among the many replies (most of them were written around 2008) I found a few mentioning that Orser once said that he witnessed Yu-na successing in 3A including landing. I'm not sure how many times he witnessed the successful landings (some says he witnessed a few times, but it's not unconfirmed).

Anyway, there is no way I can confirm those things, so that would be great if somebody can provide some additional information.

I once had a bigger version of this clip but somehow lost it.

If those posts you read sometime in 2008 were based on the fact, then I wonder when was the last time she attemped and successfully landed her 3A. If she landed 3A's until 2008, I think it is possible for her to have it in her arsenal.

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 09:18 PM

legend, on Apr 1 2010, 02:58 AM, said:

That really is something. Where did you find it?

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 09:45 PM

Holy shiz... so there's the possibility that Yu-na does/did have the triple axel? That's just... okay, the selfish side of me just reared up, since I want her to do it in competition (and prove to all those Mao fans who complain ZOMG BUT YU-NA CAN'T DO THE TRIPLE AXEL :rofl2:

). Or in exhibition. Though like other people have stated, it'd be awesome for Yu-na to start doing the triple loop again. :angry:

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 11:00 PM

the girl doesn't like showing jumps that she knows she isn't 100% confident with. even if its 95% she won't.... so i think she's just hiding it until BAM she comes out with a 3axle. maybe she will in the future. it'll just add more fun i think. lol

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 11:16 PM

I am pretty sure that when she masters the triple axel, she ll be more unstoppable, and that would be it. The woman's figure skating world will belong to our Queen =D

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 11:49 PM

WOW! I want her to show the fans of figure skating that indeed she's capable too. Just imagine the possibility! :rofl2:

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 09:24 AM

Thanks legend for that clip (I wish the clip was bigger), and I wish we could see if she actually lands it correctly. There's some Korean writing that's blocking the view of her landing.

yunafigure, on Apr 1 2010, 12:00 AM, said:

LOL! I like the way you put it yunafigure - BAMM! In your face!!! :rofl2:

But we don't want her to strain herself and get injured, her body has been thru a lot of serious injuries (her back and hip) from 2007 - 2008. And once you've been injuried, you know that just doesn't really go away, you're really never back to normal.

She didn't need the 3A to win, I mean seriously, her points were off the charts. But just goes to show you that Mao isn't the amazing jumping specialist that they all make it sound like. I actually think Midori Ito's 3A was incredibly high, full rotated in the air and then landed w/ out question in some old clips I've seen.

Hey, has anyone else noticed that sometimes I swear it looks like when Yuna's doing her opening triple-triple combination, she sort of hangs in the air and then turns (kinda like Michael Jordan's hang in the air before shooting)?

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 09:32 AM

queen's_subject, on Apr 1 2010, 10:24 AM, said:

Thanks legend for that clip (I wish the clip was bigger), and I wish we could see if she actually lands it correctly. There's some Korean writing that's blocking the view of her landing.

LOL! I like the way you put it yunafigure - BAMM! In your face!!! :rofl2:

That's because she does a delayed triple Lutz... rotating slowly at start and then faster. That's why she gets the GOE that she does. Delay in rotation is one of the items for positive GOE.

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 09:42 AM

Moogoonghwa, on Apr 1 2010, 10:32 AM, said:

That's because she does a delayed triple Lutz... rotating slowly at start and then faster. That's why she gets the GOE that she does. Delay in rotation is one of the items for positive GOE.

Oh my gosh! Thanks so much for clarifying that! You guys know your skating! I thought it wasn't my monitor playing eye tricks on me. Her jumps are so cool! :rofl2:

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 09:58 AM

i am under the impression that yu-na hired at first "mr.3A" Orser to help her with the 3A.Thats a fact.If yu-na thought the 3A was beyond her capabilities she wouldnt care about it.It was after they started working together and after Orser
saw what Yu-na already did great and thinking of an Olympic strategy,that they decided to put the 3A aside and work on the other stuff.That doesnt mean she cant do a 3A.She cant do it right now and would probably take her some time to learn it well ,something Orser thought was not worth investing time into,which proved perfectly right from her OGM.

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 10:04 AM

^i think it makes sense of what you said...probably it was due to strategy wise not to do 3A

but now the Olympics is in the history...i think it would be the best time for yuna to climb more mountains like doing new jumps...not needing to worry about scores and placements as much

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spiccoli, on Mar 31 2010, 11:49 PM, said:

WOW! I want her to show the fans of figure skating that indeed she's capable too. Just imagine the possibility! ^_^

She probably just want to make sure that she can pull it off whenever she needs to. If she isn't satisfied with it, she will work on it, but she won't use it in the competition. It is just a matter of time before she uses it!!

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Posted 02 April 2010 - 02:06 PM

I will leave up to Brian and Yuna on the 3A. I will admit I'm a little skeptical for a few reasons.

1. She doesn't need it unless the CoP points change. It has more appear to us as Yuna fans because Mao does it not because she needs it.
2. She's had injury issues which BTW, injuries never heal completely. The body works around the injuries but the scar tissue is always there just waiting to reappear with another injury.
3. Ladies jumping capability (height, distance) appears to diminish quicker than men. Some think as early as 16. Yuna and Mao have been remarkable for maintaining their ability. Compare Yuna's legs from four years ago. I think she has spend considerable effort on strength, especially leg strength and weight to maintain her level of jumping. Increasing jumping capability at 20 years old would be very challenging - well that's up to Yuna and Brian.
4. Yuna is revolutionary in figure skating with her artistry and her musical ability. While her jumping has always been great, there have been many that could match her in jumping. I don't think anyone can match her in her artistry and she is just scratching the surface in her artistic ability.

So my preference is to focus the next 4 years (I hope) on artistry, save her body and enjoy her skating rather than beat her self up with new technical challeges.

Sorry to ruin the 3A party. ^_^

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Posted 02 April 2010 - 02:12 PM

I agree with San_Fran. Considering Mao's 3A is not consistent (she got the full credit on 1 out of 3 at the recent worlds), Yu Na doesn't need 3A. However, we all know that both Brian and Yu Na are quite competitive. Who knows? ^_^

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Posted 02 April 2010 - 03:26 PM

San_Fran, on Apr 2 2010, 02:06 PM, said:

sunshineToo, on Apr 2 2010, 02:12 PM, said:

I, who believe in that figure skating is not all about a triple axel, agree 100% with you.

On the other hand, since Yuna strikes me as a perfectionist and now that we all know she will never try her 3A without exceptional finesse and power, why don't I say that we're just indulging in daydreaming or speculating about it? Just like us always speculating and talking about Yuna's SP/LP music/costumes for the next season during off-season? Well, the only thing that's sorta heartbreaking is that everything is so iffy. For nobody knows at this moment if Yuna will compete next season at all. So, I'll call it desperate-yet-sweet thoughts, if you will.

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Posted 02 April 2010 - 06:34 PM

I don't know if this has been posted already somewhere, but I thought it was a very balanced discussion on the value of the triple axel in light of Yuna & Mao's Olympic performance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N9A2aJTO78...feature=related

Can someone please post a downloadable link for us before it gets removed on youtube? I don't know how to do that. ^_^